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authorPhilip Wittamore <philip@wittamore.com>2026-07-12 11:08:50 +0200
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+<h2>Thoughts on suckless</h2>
+<h3>2025-06-12</h3>
+<h4>Note: opinions can change</h4>
+<p>I've been playing with <a href="https://suckless.org/">suckless tools</a>: dwm, dmenu, st, surf</p>
+<p>Dwm and dmenu are fantastic, st and surf not so much.</p>
+<p>Both st and surf have patches that are incompatible, and
+often outdated. The user is expected to know how to correct the patch
+rejections, which is often possible, but knowledge of C is your best bet.</p>
+<p>Suckless software is intended to be somewhat elite. Their web site
+is frankly not suckless, perhaps intentionally? Some of the patches proposed
+address problems that have already been solved in the main program.</p>
+<p>Surf compiles but with GTK warnings about obsolete functions.</p>
+<p>St is a headbanger if you want kittygraphics, boxdraw, and ligatures for example.</p>
+<p>The educational aspect of suckless software is of course is invaluable,
+and if it's the objective, then that's fine. The problem arises when you want to
+build something that will fulfill your needs.</p>
+<p>Because of all this I use Kitty or Ghostty instead of st, and Librewolf
+instead of Surf. I just hope dwm doesn't fall into the same hole of wanting to
+be elite to the point of not fulfilling it's task, which would be a terrible shame.</p>
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